In Pursuit of Performance

May 2025 | 60 mins

In this discussion with Jason Hunt of Execs Who Run, we discuss how a life of deep-sea leadership transformed into a pursuit of ultra-distance endurance—and what it teaches about service, sacrifice, and self-mastery.

We cover:

• The day I ran my submarine aground and the leadership reckoning that followed

• The transformation from marathoner to ultrarunner to UTMB finisher

• The five Ps that guide me in races—and in life

Execs Who Run brings life, leadership, and the miles in between together through unscripted conversations with high-achieving leaders. Hosted by Jason Hunt—elite marathon runner and executive search professional—this podcast dives into the personal stories, insights, and habits that shape today’s leaders.